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 INN on Linux, "Transfer permission denied", FAQ answer doesn't work
I'm trying to get INN up on a Linux 1.2.8 Pentium, and I'm having some
problems.  The general network setup is probably okay on the machine;
it's on an ethernet with a bunch of other systems, and I can telnet,
ftp, ntp, and so forth between them.

I'm getting the "441 480 Transfer permission denied" error described
in the FAQ; but the solution given there doesn't work.  I have
HAVE_UNIX_DOMAIN set to DONT (this is necessary for linux, yes?
Despite man pages apparently describing unix domain sockets?  It was
set to DONT in the config.data that came with the linux distribution,
and when I set it to DO I got an innd that didn't start up.)
Furthermore, the log I get when I "ctlinnd trace nnrpd y" clearly
shows nnrpd accepting the connection, and then firing up a second
nnrpd and giving it an "ihave".  Just like the FAQ describes:

Jun 26 22:45:19 scream nnrpd[14843]: gw.ddb.com < post
Jun 26 22:45:19 scream nnrpd[14843]: gw.ddb.com > 340 Ok
Jun 26 22:45:19 scream nnrpd[14844]: scream.ing.com > 200 scream.ing.com InterNetNews NNRP server INN 1.4unoff1 12-Jun-95 ready (posting ok).
Jun 26 22:45:19 scream nnrpd[14843]: gw.ddb.com post_connect (null)
Jun 26 22:45:19 scream nnrpd[14843]: gw.ddb.com > 441 480 Transfer permission denied
Jun 26 22:45:19 scream nnrpd[14844]: scream.ing.com < ihave <3snur7$...@gw.ddb.com>
Jun 26 22:45:19 scream nnrpd[14844]: scream.ing.com > 480 Transfer permission denied

However, adding the server system to hosts.nntp by name and by IP
address, and adding "localhost", doesn't change the behavior.  Yes, I
did remember to ctlinnd reload hosts.nntp.  And in fact I shut down
and restarted the entire server just in case.  I'm reasonably certain
I don't have myself confused about what the NEWSLIB directory is.  If
I have two copies floating around I haven't found the second one yet.

Here's the relevant chunk of hosts.nntp:
    scream.ing.com:
    204.73.51.6:
    localhost:
Does the fact that when I connect to myself I appear in the log as
scream.ing.com indicate that the scream.ing.com entry alone should
suffice?  Anyway....

My posting test is coming from another system; and that other system
can post successfully via another server, running INN on a sun (also
installed by me).  But change NNTPSERVER and point it at my LInux
based server, and I get the "Transfer permission denied error".  I've
also used inews -D to look at the article as being sent, and it looks
reasonable to me.

So, somebody who hasn't been staring at this as long as I have, what
am I screwing up?

Another Linux INN configuration question: The sample config.data I got
with Linux showed a "-DMMAP" added to DBZCFLAGS (though it used the
READ style for the active file).  When I had that, I got periodic
kernel messages saying I was trying to map shared pages for write.  So
I took out the -DMMAP, and the messages went away.  What's right?
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 Fri, 12 Dec 1997 03:00:00 GMT   
 INN on Linux, "Transfer permission denied", FAQ answer doesn't work

Why don't you just try and add gw.ddb.com to it?

Until Linux 1.3 mmap() doesn't suffice the requirements inn has. So
compiling without mmap is right.
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 Sat, 13 Dec 1997 03:00:00 GMT   
 INN on Linux, "Transfer permission denied", FAQ answer doesn't work

Because that's not what the FAQ recommends, and in fact it shouldn't
help.  The connection from gw.ddb.com would be handed off to an nnrpd
as soon as it issued a mode reader command anyway.  Then, when
gw.ddb.com posts, the nnrpd handling the link opens its own link to
nntp to actually do the post.  And it's THAT link that's being handed
off to an nnrpd incorrectly (it whould be kept by innd).  At least,
that's my understanding of what the FAQ says, and that's consistent
with everything I've been able to get into the logs.

Also, because it's not acceptable to have to add every system that's
ever going to post to hosts.nntp.  If that's the *only* solution (I
don't think it's a solution at all, but following this out as a
hypothetical) we'd have to give up on using LInux as a news server,
because many of the customers we're serving have their own nameservers
and manage their own domains and we don't *know* what systems exist
there.

And finally, because I tried it and it didn't work.  This clear
theoretical understanding I'm attempting to display is the result of a
*lot* of playing around, largely at random.  :-)

Hmmm; a reason to upgrade to 1.3 some day soon, maybe.

So, the config file I got specifying MMAP for dbz was wrong?  It sure
seemed to be, it didn't produce anything that worked.
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 Sun, 14 Dec 1997 03:00:00 GMT   
 INN on Linux, "Transfer permission denied", FAQ answer doesn't work

I've simplified the test configuration a bit.  I got rid of gw.ddb.com
entirely; I now post my test article from scream.ing.com.  And exactly
the same things happen.

    scream:ddb# hostname -f
    scream.ing.com
    scream:ddb# export NNTPSERVER=scream.ing.com
    scream:ddb# inews -h test.article
    Can't send article to the server:
            441 480 Transfer permission denied
    (Article not posted.)
    scream:ddb# NNTPSERVER=news.gofast.net
    scream:ddb# inews -h test.article
    scream:ddb#

Definitely something screwy about scream, I just haven't figured out
what yet.
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 Sun, 14 Dec 1997 03:00:00 GMT   
 INN on Linux, "Transfer permission denied", FAQ answer doesn't work
Hi,

i've got the same problem (480 Transfer permission denied), but i've
solved it justs 5 minutes ago:

1.) I've added my local news-server in hosts.nntp

2.) I've started "ctlinnd reload hosts.nntp test"

3.) That's it for me, now i can post

Axel



 Sun, 14 Dec 1997 03:00:00 GMT   
 INN on Linux, "Transfer permission denied", FAQ answer doesn't work
In article <3srs1q$...@www.lion.de> "Axel B. Wiethoff" <Axel.Wieth...@Mail.LION.de> writes:

As I explained in my article that started this thread, that answer (which is
the one in the FAQ) didn't work on my system.  I'm still looking for why not.
I've checked *which* inews I'm running, in particular, and it's the one built
for my INN.

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 Mon, 15 Dec 1997 03:00:00 GMT   
 INN on Linux, "Transfer permission denied", FAQ answer doesn't work
"Axel B. Wiethoff" <Axel.Wieth...@Mail.LION.de> wrote:

I followed the same procedure, and fixed my problem as work....  

I'm using my machine at home (loopback - only) for a dialup PPP
connection, and when I telnet into port 119 of my machine, I get the
appropriate prompts...

but after the post, from xxx, subject: xxxx, newsgroups: xxxx

I get something like "cannot send connection request to server..
Connection refused."

Any ideas?

Greg

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 Mon, 15 Dec 1997 03:00:00 GMT   
 INN on Linux, "Transfer permission denied", FAQ answer doesn't work
In article <DAy856....@network.com>,
   d...@scow.network.com (David Dyer-Bennet) wrote:
Have you checked inn.conf for an incorrect server name?  This happened to
me before.

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 Tue, 16 Dec 1997 03:00:00 GMT   
 INN on Linux, "Transfer permission denied", FAQ answer doesn't work
Here's further musings and information on my INN posting problem,
posted last week.  Thanks to all who have written with questions,
suggestions, and comments.  Here's the latest full summary of the test
conditions, and the log entries resulting from them.

In brief summary, I'm trying to get INN up on a Linux 1.2.8 Pentium,
and I'm having some problems.  The general network setup is probably
okay on the machine; it's on an ethernet with a bunch of other
systems, and I can telnet, ftp, ntp, and so forth between them.

I'm getting the "441 480 Transfer permission denied" error described
in the FAQ; but the solution given there doesn't work; My server is
definitely in its own hosts.nntp file (four different ways)..

I've refined my test case, increased logging, and have a couple of
additional observations.  This is driving me crazy, and I'll really
appreciate any help you can offer.

Conditions at the time of the test:

    scream:news# echo $NNTPSERVER

    scream:news# cat /etc/nntpserver
    scream.ing.com

(In fact, setting NNTPSERVER to scream.ing.com directly doesn't change
anything.  Since entries appear in the log file on scream.ing.com, I
believe I'm accessing the server I think I am.)

Permissions on relevant files:

    scream:news# ls -l hosts.nntp nnrp.access passwd.nntp
    -rw-r-----   1 news     news          432 Jun 27 22:51 hosts.nntp
    -rw-r-----   1 news     news         1401 Jun 27 21:57 nnrp.access
    -r--r-----   1 news     news          682 Jun 15 16:44 passwd.nntp

Our hosts.nntp file (some other systems we feed from deleted):

    # Scream.ing.com hosts.nntp
    # $Id: hosts.nntp,v 1.2 1995/06/15 22:16:54 ddb Exp ddb $

    scream.ing.com:
    scream:
    204.73.51.6:
    localhost:

    # End of hosts.nntp

Our inn.conf file:

    # scream.ing.com inn.conf
    # $Id: inn.conf,v 1.3 1995/06/28 15:16:48 ddb Exp $

    organization:       gofast.net -- ISDN Internet connections in Mpls/St. Paul
    fromhost:   scream.ing.com
    pathhost:   scream.ing.com
    server:             scream.ing.com
    domain:             ing.com

    # End of inn.conf

Some DNS information that I think is relevant:

    scream:news# host -a scream.ing.com
    Trying null domain
    rcode = 0 (Success), ancount=2
    scream.ing.com      604800 IN       A       204.73.51.6
    scream.ing.com      604800 IN       MX      10 nam.ing.com
    Additional information:
    nam.ing.com 604800 IN       A       204.73.51.1

Performing the test:

    scream:news# ctlinnd trace i y
    Ok
    scream:news# ctlinnd trace n y
    Ok
    scream:news# inews -h <~/test.article
    Can't send article to the server:
            441 480 Transfer permission denied
    (Article not posted.)
    scream:news# ctlinnd trace i n
    Ok
    scream:news# ctlinnd trace n n
    Ok
    scream:news#

And now, the log file produced.  Lines prefixed with *** are my
comments and questions.

Jul  5 10:02:36 scream innd: localhost:16 > 200 scream.ing.com InterNetNews server INN 1.4unoff1 12-Jun-95 ready
*** Initial inews connect to innd
Jul  5 10:02:36 scream innd: scream.ing.com:16 < mode reader
*** inews sends "mode reader" command
Jul  5 10:02:37 scream nnrpd[26247]: scream.ing.com > 200 scream.ing.com InterNetNews NNRP server INN 1.4unoff1 12-Jun-95 ready (posting ok).
*** nntp hands connection off to an nnrpd
Jul  5 10:02:37 scream nnrpd[26247]: scream.ing.com < mode reader
*** Is inews sending a second "mode reader" after the handoff?  Why?
Jul  5 10:02:37 scream nnrpd[26247]: scream.ing.com > 200 scream.ing.com InterNetNews NNRP server INN 1.4unoff1 12-Jun-95 ready (posting ok).
*** The nnrpd says it's there.
Jul  5 10:02:37 scream nnrpd[26247]: scream.ing.com < list
Jul  5 10:02:37 scream nnrpd[26247]: scream.ing.com > 215 Newsgroups in form "group high low flags".
Jul  5 10:02:38 scream nnrpd[26247]: scream.ing.com < post
*** inews tries to post
Jul  5 10:02:38 scream nnrpd[26247]: scream.ing.com > 340 Ok
*** The nnrpd says this is an ok thing to do
Jul  5 10:02:39 scream innd: localhost:16 > 200 scream.ing.com InterNetNews server INN 1.4unoff1 12-Jun-95 ready
*** nnrpd starts up an nntp connection to innd to relay the post?
Jul  5 10:02:39 scream innd: scream.ing.com:16 < mode reader
*** nnrpd sends a "mode reader" command to innd????????!!!!?!!!?!!
Jul  5 10:02:40 scream nnrpd[26248]: scream.ing.com > 200 scream.ing.com InterNetNews NNRP server INN 1.4unoff1 12-Jun-95 ready (posting ok).
*** innd hands this connection off to another nnrpd (note pid 26248)
Jul  5 10:02:40 scream nnrpd[26247]: scream.ing.com post_connect (null)
Jul  5 10:02:40 scream nnrpd[26248]: scream.ing.com < ihave <3te9id$...@scream.ing.com>
*** inews tries to post the article
Jul  5 10:02:40 scream nnrpd[26248]: scream.ing.com > 480 Transfer permission denied
*** Since it's talking to an nnrpd, ihave doesn't work
Jul  5 10:02:40 scream nnrpd[26248]: scream.ing.com < ihave <3te9id$...@scream.ing.com>
*** It retries?
Jul  5 10:02:40 scream nnrpd[26248]: scream.ing.com > 480 Transfer permission denied
*** And fails again
Jul  5 10:02:40 scream nnrpd[26248]: scream.ing.com < quit
*** So it gives up
Jul  5 10:02:40 scream nnrpd[26248]: scream.ing.com > 205
Jul  5 10:02:40 scream nnrpd[26247]: scream.ing.com > 441 480 Transfer permission denied
*** So the initial nnrpd reports failure back to inews
Jul  5 10:02:40 scream nnrpd[26247]: scream.ing.com < quit
*** So it gives up
Jul  5 10:02:40 scream nnrpd[26247]: scream.ing.com > 205

Does this suggest anything to anybody?  I'm getting kinda desperate here.
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 Sun, 21 Dec 1997 03:00:00 GMT   
 INN on Linux, "Transfer permission denied", FAQ answer doesn't work
Try adding your machine's name to the hosts.nntp file.  Ex:

hosts.nntp
------------------------------
your.machine.name:
the.server.name:
-----------------------------

: Here's further musings and information on my INN posting problem,
: posted last week.  Thanks to all who have written with questions,
: suggestions, and comments.  Here's the latest full summary of the test
: conditions, and the log entries resulting from them.

: In brief summary, I'm trying to get INN up on a Linux 1.2.8 Pentium,
: and I'm having some problems.  The general network setup is probably
: okay on the machine; it's on an ethernet with a bunch of other
: systems, and I can telnet, ftp, ntp, and so forth between them.

: I'm getting the "441 480 Transfer permission denied" error described
: in the FAQ; but the solution given there doesn't work; My server is
: definitely in its own hosts.nntp file (four different ways)..

: I've refined my test case, increased logging, and have a couple of
: additional observations.  This is driving me crazy, and I'll really
: appreciate any help you can offer.

: Conditions at the time of the test:

:     scream:news# echo $NNTPSERVER

:     scream:news# cat /etc/nntpserver
:     scream.ing.com

: (In fact, setting NNTPSERVER to scream.ing.com directly doesn't change
: anything.  Since entries appear in the log file on scream.ing.com, I
: believe I'm accessing the server I think I am.)

: Permissions on relevant files:

:     scream:news# ls -l hosts.nntp nnrp.access passwd.nntp
:     -rw-r-----   1 news     news          432 Jun 27 22:51 hosts.nntp
:     -rw-r-----   1 news     news         1401 Jun 27 21:57 nnrp.access
:     -r--r-----   1 news     news          682 Jun 15 16:44 passwd.nntp

: Our hosts.nntp file (some other systems we feed from deleted):

:     # Scream.ing.com hosts.nntp
:     # $Id: hosts.nntp,v 1.2 1995/06/15 22:16:54 ddb Exp ddb $

:     scream.ing.com:
:     scream:
:     204.73.51.6:
:     localhost:

:     # End of hosts.nntp

: Our inn.conf file:

:     # scream.ing.com inn.conf
:     # $Id: inn.conf,v 1.3 1995/06/28 15:16:48 ddb Exp $

:     organization:     gofast.net -- ISDN Internet connections in Mpls/St. Paul
:     fromhost: scream.ing.com
:     pathhost: scream.ing.com
:     server:           scream.ing.com
:     domain:           ing.com

:     # End of inn.conf

: Some DNS information that I think is relevant:

:     scream:news# host -a scream.ing.com
:     Trying null domain
:     rcode = 0 (Success), ancount=2
:     scream.ing.com    604800 IN       A       204.73.51.6
:     scream.ing.com    604800 IN       MX      10 nam.ing.com
:     Additional information:
:     nam.ing.com       604800 IN       A       204.73.51.1

: Performing the test:

:     scream:news# ctlinnd trace i y
:     Ok
:     scream:news# ctlinnd trace n y
:     Ok
:     scream:news# inews -h <~/test.article
:     Can't send article to the server:
:           441 480 Transfer permission denied
:     (Article not posted.)
:     scream:news# ctlinnd trace i n
:     Ok
:     scream:news# ctlinnd trace n n
:     Ok
:     scream:news#

: And now, the log file produced.  Lines prefixed with *** are my
: comments and questions.

: Jul  5 10:02:36 scream innd: localhost:16 > 200 scream.ing.com InterNetNews server INN 1.4unoff1 12-Jun-95 ready
: *** Initial inews connect to innd
: Jul  5 10:02:36 scream innd: scream.ing.com:16 < mode reader
: *** inews sends "mode reader" command
: Jul  5 10:02:37 scream nnrpd[26247]: scream.ing.com > 200 scream.ing.com InterNetNews NNRP server INN 1.4unoff1 12-Jun-95 ready (posting ok).
: *** nntp hands connection off to an nnrpd
: Jul  5 10:02:37 scream nnrpd[26247]: scream.ing.com < mode reader
: *** Is inews sending a second "mode reader" after the handoff?  Why?
: Jul  5 10:02:37 scream nnrpd[26247]: scream.ing.com > 200 scream.ing.com InterNetNews NNRP server INN 1.4unoff1 12-Jun-95 ready (posting ok).
: *** The nnrpd says it's there.
: Jul  5 10:02:37 scream nnrpd[26247]: scream.ing.com < list
: Jul  5 10:02:37 scream nnrpd[26247]: scream.ing.com > 215 Newsgroups in form "group high low flags".
: Jul  5 10:02:38 scream nnrpd[26247]: scream.ing.com < post
: *** inews tries to post
: Jul  5 10:02:38 scream nnrpd[26247]: scream.ing.com > 340 Ok
: *** The nnrpd says this is an ok thing to do
: Jul  5 10:02:39 scream innd: localhost:16 > 200 scream.ing.com InterNetNews server INN 1.4unoff1 12-Jun-95 ready
: *** nnrpd starts up an nntp connection to innd to relay the post?
: Jul  5 10:02:39 scream innd: scream.ing.com:16 < mode reader
: *** nnrpd sends a "mode reader" command to innd????????!!!!?!!!?!!
: Jul  5 10:02:40 scream nnrpd[26248]: scream.ing.com > 200 scream.ing.com InterNetNews NNRP server INN 1.4unoff1 12-Jun-95 ready (posting ok).
: *** innd hands this connection off to another nnrpd (note pid 26248)
: Jul  5 10:02:40 scream nnrpd[26247]: scream.ing.com post_connect (null)
: Jul  5 10:02:40 scream nnrpd[26248]: scream.ing.com < ihave <3te9id$...@scream.ing.com>
: *** inews tries to post the article
: Jul  5 10:02:40 scream nnrpd[26248]: scream.ing.com > 480 Transfer permission denied
: *** Since it's talking to an nnrpd, ihave doesn't work
: Jul  5 10:02:40 scream nnrpd[26248]: scream.ing.com < ihave <3te9id$...@scream.ing.com>
: *** It retries?
: Jul  5 10:02:40 scream nnrpd[26248]: scream.ing.com > 480 Transfer permission denied
: *** And fails again
: Jul  5 10:02:40 scream nnrpd[26248]: scream.ing.com < quit
: *** So it gives up
: Jul  5 10:02:40 scream nnrpd[26248]: scream.ing.com > 205
: Jul  5 10:02:40 scream nnrpd[26247]: scream.ing.com > 441 480 Transfer permission denied
: *** So the initial nnrpd reports failure back to inews
: Jul  5 10:02:40 scream nnrpd[26247]: scream.ing.com < quit
: *** So it gives up
: Jul  5 10:02:40 scream nnrpd[26247]: scream.ing.com > 205

: Does this suggest anything to anybody?  I'm getting kinda desperate here.
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 Mon, 22 Dec 1997 03:00:00 GMT   
 INN on Linux, "Transfer permission denied", FAQ answer doesn't work
In article <3thmu5$...@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu> jb...@news.itd.umich.edu (James M. Blum) writes:

Um, I've already done this, and I said so in the message you're responding to,
and in fact you *QUOTED* in your response the excerpt from my hosts.nntp
showing I'd already done what you were suggesting!

And you are about the fourth person to make this suggestion that I do what
I've already done.  Thanks anyway.

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 Fri, 26 Dec 1997 03:00:00 GMT   
 
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7. rsh HOSTNAME COMMAND get "Permission denied."

8. Samba woes: "permission denied"


 
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