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 Quickest way to command line from GUI desktop
Hello,

I am a newby and have RH8

1. What is the quickest way to get to the command line to use commands
when in the GUI.

2. On bootup is there a hot key that stops GUI and gets into command line

3. Is there such a thing as 'safe; mode in this.

The CDrom in GUI can read some discs but not others. Any ideas?  

Among the ones it reads are cheapies I have burnt and those it doesn't,
is  Red Hat8 Install Disc3.

rock



 Fri, 06 May 2005 11:43:44 GMT   
 Quickest way to command line from GUI desktop

Probably to open a terminal window (like a DOS window in Windows).
There are various terminal programmes. rxvt, xterm, KDE and GNOME also
have terminal windows. You can leave one open for using the command line.

If you want a "real" text console (not a terminal window) you would want to
close down X.



 Fri, 06 May 2005 11:57:37 GMT   
 Quickest way to command line from GUI desktop

'Real' commandline, login and everything:
ctrl-alt-F1  (F7 is the gui, for switching back)

GNOME: right-click on the desktop and click 'New Terminal'.

Once it's booted, you can ctrl-alt-F1, log in as root, and type 'telinit 3' to
switch to runlevel 3, which shuts down X.  Runlevel 5 (telinit 5) will
bring the GUI back.

OR, if that's not enough,

Put the bootloader into commandline mode ('c', I believe, is the default
key for that in RH8.0) and type 'linux single' for serious maintenance.
It will bring up a root prompt.

As in Windows 98?  Single-user mode.  See above.

Owen
--
When all else fails, run.



 Fri, 06 May 2005 12:01:57 GMT   
 Quickest way to command line from GUI desktop

And if you slip and type telinit 6, you'll reboot your computer.  I meant
to mention that (I ran afoul of that the other day :/ so much for uptime).
--
When all else fails, run.



 Fri, 06 May 2005 12:08:20 GMT   
 Quickest way to command line from GUI desktop

Thank you.

 I have found the terminal in the Start Menu.  

Saw it before but wasn't sure that it was actually the real command line.

rock



 Fri, 06 May 2005 12:03:53 GMT   
 Quickest way to command line from GUI desktop

 Wow - thanks!!  Wish more were thorough and EZ to understand like you!



 Fri, 06 May 2005 12:14:41 GMT   
 Quickest way to command line from GUI desktop

You don't need to do that.  Just switch to the console using ctrl+alt+f(1-6)
& leave X running on f7.



 Fri, 06 May 2005 12:24:41 GMT   
 Quickest way to command line from GUI desktop
On Mon, 18 Nov 2002 14:43:44 +1100, rock staggered into the Black Sun
and said:

Launch a konsole or Eterm.  If you're using KDE, there should be a small
icon that looks like a seashell in front of a computer screen.  Click
that icon.  There's a similar icon for a similar program in GNOME.

?  Hm.  The virtual consoles (where the X11 graphical environment
doesn't start) are always there, and they always work.  There is not
really an equivalent to Windoze "unsafe mode" in Linux.  If you have
managed to mangle your XFree86 configuration, the graphical environment
won't start.  You can reconfigure it by logging on as root from the
virtual console (press Ctrl-Alt-F1 to get to the first virtual console)
and running "setup" again.

A stock installation of REdhat may have trouble distinguishing between
UDF-formatted CD-RWs and ISO9660 (standard)-formatted discs.  Redhat
installation disc 3 should be in ISO9660 format though.  Did you check
the md5sum of the .ISO file after you'd downloaded it, to make sure
there wasn't any file corruption?  If this disc was part of a boxed set,
look carefully at the CD to make sure it isn't scratched or mangled.  If
it is scratched, a thin layer of clear nail polish can work wonders on
small scratches and cracks in the plastic layer of a CD.  If the metal
layer of a CD is damaged, forget it--the CD is a coaster.

--
Matt G|There is no Darkness in Eternity/But only Light too dim for us to see
Brainbench MVP for Linux Admin /
http://www.brainbench.com     /  "He is a rhythmic movement of the
-----------------------------/    penguins, is Tux." --MegaHAL



 Fri, 06 May 2005 12:32:31 GMT   
 Quickest way to command line from GUI desktop

This has got me!!

I was going in and out of the tree and trying to get my floppy to see a
html file I copied over from XP and I clicked on the CD and  - whammo
there it was!

The index tree was there all bright and bushy!

I have tried this all day , turned the machine off/on, changes
drives/checked bios and done many things but now it works!! Oh well as
long as it does.

I am still though having trouble seeing the html file on the linux box.

I was able to copy a file from /root to the floppy and see it okay, but
I didn't see it in the win box when I put the floppy there..

 So I guess it is a format thing.

Problem is, how do I get files from one to the other ?

rock



 Fri, 06 May 2005 12:48:40 GMT   
 Quickest way to command line from GUI desktop

Did you unmount the floppy before you removed it from the machine?  Linux
doesn't do disk writes immediately, because sometimes something else needs
the processor Right Now.  When you unmount a disk, any pending data is
written.
--
When all else fails, run.



 Fri, 06 May 2005 13:11:15 GMT   
 Quickest way to command line from GUI desktop

You're very welcome.  My email address is in the From: line -- just remove
'trappenspammen' from the domain.  I'm usually happy to answer questions.

Owen
--
When all else fails, run.



 Fri, 06 May 2005 13:13:44 GMT   
 Quickest way to command line from GUI desktop

No need to close down X.

Ctrl-LeftAlt-F1-6     will take you to a  tty to log into.
  "      "         F7    will take you back to X

Bruce
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 Fri, 06 May 2005 15:01:21 GMT   
 Quickest way to command line from GUI desktop

The quickest way is, as others have said, Ctrl+Alt+F1 (through F6 or
so).  The best way is to start an xterm, or kterm, or gnome-terminal,
or whatever your favorite terminal program is.

Not normally, no, because...

...usually when you want to prevent X from starting, this is what you
do.  The Unix "safe mode" is called single-user mode, and
unfortunately, Linux distributions have been making it increasingly
unsafe.

You do it by telling your boot loader to pass the `-s' or `single'
arguments to the kernel.  If you have LILO, you may be able to
accomplish this by pressing the shift key when you get the
prompt/screen (this is _before_ the "Uncompressing Linux" message, if
you get that message you waited too long), then entering "Linux -s" at
the prompt.

There is almost certainly some error message that's being obscured by
the GUI.  You should try this from the command line.  Just do

  % mount /cdrom

with one of the problem discs in the drive and see what it says.

--
Eric McCoy (reverse "ten.xoc@mpe", mail to "ctr2sprt" is filtered)

"Last I checked, it wasn't the power cord for the Clue Generator that
was sticking up your ass." - John Novak, rasfwrj



 Fri, 06 May 2005 17:46:12 GMT   
 Quickest way to command line from GUI desktop

If you have windows and Linux on the same machine (dual-boot),
the best way is to tell Linux to mount the windows disk.
That way you can read/write file from/to the windows partition
when you are under Linux.

On Mandrkae Linux, this is done automatically when you install
Linux and the machine already has a Windows partition. You
find the windows disk under /mnt/windows or /mnt/win_c /mnt/win_d
and similar names. I'm not familiar with RH8, but I guess it
must do something similar. Anyway, you can use the 'mount'
command to do it. The syntax would look like:

mount /dev/hda1 /mnt/windows

For this to work, you must have an existing (empty) /mnt/windows
directory and the windows partition should be the first one on the
first IDE disk. Otherwise the /dev/hda1 should be replaced with
something else (different number or /dev/hdb1 for second IDE drive etc)

Hope it helps,

--
every good wish,
Gerry.



 Sat, 07 May 2005 12:06:22 GMT   
 Quickest way to command line from GUI desktop

Unless the Windows partition is NTFS. Then it's read-only, and that only
if NTFS is enabled in the kernel. In RH 8, NTFS support is disabled by
default.

--
Paul Lutus
www.arachnoid.com



 Sat, 07 May 2005 13:11:51 GMT   
 
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