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 Charlie Root has to go!
Now that I'm using my FreeBSD server and sending
mail from it, I am in need of changing the name that
shows up when I send mail as root. Some of biz contacts
just would get the wrong idea about Charlie Root.

I used to know where to change this, but in 4.2 I am
at a loss as to how I used to do it. Can someone offer
some idea here?



 Fri, 30 May 2003 09:39:29 GMT   
 Charlie Root has to go!
In article
<72ABCF11B04BE178.1867BB91E22D9B60.0C16102D9E9F6...@lp.airnews.net>, "Max

Using "chfn root" is an easy way. As always, it's a good idea to take a
look at "man chfn" before diving in.

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 Thu, 29 May 2003 23:47:39 GMT   
 Charlie Root has to go!
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This isn't exactly the answer you were looking for, but
anyway...

Are you sure you need to be sending email as root in the first
place?  I left "Charlie &" as the "real" name because, honestly,
I want to remind myself that I shouldn't be using that account
for anything other than system administration anyway.

Put another way: if I ever send a mail as Charlie Root, and my
friends laugh at me, then I feel embarassed because I was
working from the wrong account and not because I hadn't changed
the name.

If you insist, chsh does the trick.
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Kirk Strauser

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 Fri, 30 May 2003 11:21:28 GMT   
 Charlie Root has to go!
Why on earth would you be sending mail to people as root?
Ever heard of su and sudo?

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 Fri, 30 May 2003 12:41:49 GMT   
 Charlie Root has to go!

Agreed.  No one should be doing anything as root, except setting the
time clock, modifying system files, and doing the occasional make
install.  This is a common newbie mistake.  All activities should be
done as a regular user, except administrative.  And even then, user
should su root, not login as root directly (except in rare cases).

There should be a warning "Never login as root!  Always login as
yourself, and su root."  Remember when that message used to be in
FreeBSD?  It was about 4-5 years ago.

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 Fri, 30 May 2003 13:37:32 GMT   
 Charlie Root has to go!
In article <slrn938mfq.iou.$U...@dinsdale.piranhabrothers.org>,

    From: root
    To: joe user
    Subject: Cut it out.

    Stop {*filter*}ing with the system NOW.  Thanks.

    -BOFH

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                   \/           tinsnips and cutting off their network access.



 Fri, 30 May 2003 14:48:57 GMT   
 Charlie Root has to go!
On 10 Dec 2000 22:48:57 -0800, david parsons <o...@pell.portland.or.us> wrote:

Why not use a proper mailing agent and forge it so it looks like
it's coming from root without actually doing so?  Sorry,  personal
rule.  All mail tasks exist only in userland. Luser would never
know it was forged anyway.

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As your attorney, it is my duty to inform you that
it is not important that you understand what I'm
doing or why you are paying me so much money.
What's important is that you continue to do so.
                                --Dr. Gonzo
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 Fri, 30 May 2003 15:43:09 GMT   
 Charlie Root has to go!
In article <slrn9391f6.j27.$U...@dinsdale.piranhabrothers.org>,

   I like using /bin/mail for sending quick messages.   I'd sure hate to
   get into a habit that requires me to fire up ${FANCY_MAILER} so I can
   forge headers.

                 ____
   david parsons \bi/ Better to su in, fix the problem, then send the threat.
                  \/



 Fri, 30 May 2003 17:09:14 GMT   
 Charlie Root has to go!
We've tracked down the source of the following rumour to
o...@pell.portland.or.us (david parsons) on Mon, 11 Dec 2000
06:48:57 GMT :

What's wrong with

    From: David Parsons
    To: joe user
    Subject: Cut it out.

    Stop {*filter*}ing with the system NOW.  Thanks.

    -BOFH
 ?

OK, I've installed the free software. Now where's the free beer?

To mail me, carve my name and address out of spam.



 Fri, 30 May 2003 22:51:06 GMT   
 Charlie Root has to go!

dp> From: root
dp> To: joe user
dp> Subject: Cut it out.
dp> Stop {*filter*}ing with the system NOW.  Thanks.

To which the user should reply

        From: Joe <user>
        To: root
        Subject: Glass houses

        Stop doing things as root before you {*filter*} the
        system for everyone.

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 Sat, 31 May 2003 00:57:58 GMT   
 Charlie Root has to go!

This is a fine sig ;-)

Anyway, some weeks ago, I installed BeOS, for playing, which looks rather
unixish, but seems to be root only. And what is with MacOS X ?

H.



 Sat, 31 May 2003 01:42:19 GMT   
 Charlie Root has to go!

Or become r00t3d and become a base of operations for l33t hack3rz....

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 Sat, 31 May 2003 02:58:26 GMT   
 Charlie Root has to go!

MacOS X uses sudo, but it does set the root password to the same
password that is used for the installing user. (i.e. the user you use
when running the setup assistant)  You are indeed running as that user,
but you have sudo all access.
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 Sat, 31 May 2003 03:42:09 GMT   
 Charlie Root has to go!
On 10 Dec 2000 21:21:28 -0600, Kirk Strauser <k...@strauser.com>
wrote:

Well I don't know about you but I receive two mails from "Charly Root"
every day: The "daily run output" and "security check output"

(I have a .forward in ~root to the userid I normally use)

So I think the original question is a very normal one.
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 Sat, 31 May 2003 05:56:11 GMT   
 Charlie Root has to go!
On Mon, 11 Dec 2000 21:56:11 GMT, Reinoud van Leeuwen <rein...@xs4all.nl> wrote:
[snip]

My wife has been exchanging e-mail with Charlie Root for a while now.  The
cheating {*filter*} thinks I don't know what the pair of them have been up to,
but sooner or later, I'm going to confront them with the evidence ...

[snip]

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